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The 2016 RIP List is just getting crazy

Bowie
Natalie Cole
Prince
David Gest
Blake from Blake’s 7
Alan Rickman
Ronnie Corbett
Nancy Reagan
Terry Wogan
Harper Lee
Sir George Martin
Paul Daniels
Frank Sinatra Jr
Victoria Wood
Garry Shandling
Guy Hamilton the Bond director
Chyna, the world’s most famous female wrestler ALL DEAD…

…and we’ve just passed EASTER.

This is mental. It feels like the plot of Kingsman 1 when all the celebrities were disappearing in the news every night!

MM

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It’s Trump. He’s feeding celebrities to his dark lord to power his campaign and keep him alive.

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Jagger and McCartney must be scared to leave the house!

I’ve been thinking about this for a couple of years now. I think it’s probably a result of the explosion of celebrity as a concept in the '60s and '70s (and beyond). People who became well-known in that era are now reaching the age where death is more likely.

That, combined with the fact that we’re now a lot more aware of celebrities (even relatively minor ones) on a global level, probably means that this is the shape of things to come, sadly. A lot of well-known and well-loved people are entering their autumn years.

(Another factor that probably won’t matter for a good few years yet is the relatively recent explosion of the more z-list celebrity rung - reality TV show stars, talent show contestants and the like. That creates a whole new level of people who are ‘known’ and whose deaths will probably be marked by the media. In years to come, half the news is going to be dominated by obituaries at this rate!)

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Exactly. The people who got famous on television now hitting their 80s and 90s multiplied by the explosion of channels. Every year is going to seem like a wipeout now.

MM

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Those obituary programmes the news channels make to fill time between Christmas and New Year are going to be 4 hour epics this year.

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Music also had Glenn Frey, Maurice White, Lemmy, Merle Haggard. Phife Dawg…

I agree this is the new normal, although few are on Bowie and Prince’s level.

This is part of the reason organizers in LA put together the “see them before they die!” festival:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/21/roger-daltrey-confirms-megafestival-the-who-rolling-stones-bob-dylan-paul-mccartney-coachella

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It sounds a wee bit grim, but I’ve been doing that for years, ever since I went to see Nina Simone play and missed out on Screamin’ Jay Hawkins. When Screamin’ Jay died soon afterwards, I started to try and see all of my idols before they were gone. I missed out on Bowie though.

There’s an article on the BBC up about it, analysing some data.

It indicates a bit of both. Before the 1960s with TV and pop music there weren’t that many celebrities. It was mainly a handful of big movie stars. While Bowie and Prince were undeniably A list plus, some are more on the periphery and I think that will get bigger. In previous decades without the internet and more TV channels people were less exposed, American members here may not know Ronnie Corbett or Victoria Wood (or like Jerry just know the 'four candles sketch) but they do know and watch a lot of that stuff now. I was listening to a podcast today where the Americans on it had watched Channel 4 sitcom ‘Catastrophe’ on Amazon. That wouldn’t have happened a decade ago. Nobody in the UK before the late 1980s would know any American wrestlers, like Chyna, they didn’t show it.

However they also looked at published obituaries in major publications (including themselves and the Telegraph) and they are at more than double the level of last year or the year before. It is statistically unusual, we haven’t suddenly hit a year everyone gets old and by current life expectancy Bowie, Prince, Rickman etc should have been expected to live longer. It is a bad year.

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Yeah I passed on seeing Johnny Cash in early 90s and passed on seeing David Bowie in the early 00s, and those were not great decisions. In both cases I thought I’d have more chances. I did see Prince though.

Later this year I am seeing Dolly Parton, Brian Wilson, and Bob Dylan for the first time. The “see them while they’re with us” element is part of it, particularly with Dylan.

Something that is pretty incredible is how many of the old, old guys are still with us. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis. The inventors of rock are still alive! Meanwhile the only band in which all original members are dead are the Ramones, who started in the late 1970s. It’s odd.

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We had considered going to see Willie Nelson this year for that reason. The last few live performances I’ve seen of him haven’t looked good though and I’m not sure that’s how I want to remember him.

I have seen Willie Nelson, back around 2003 or so. He was great.

My mom saw him last year and said he wasn’t that great though. He is 82, after all.

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Petula Clark released this single at 80 years old.

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I think Willie is still good in the studio but live performance is another animal.

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I missed out on seeing Dylan live 10 years ago due to a family emergency. However there is an Irish DJ called Dave Fanning who, despite worshiping Dylan, swears that he’s terrible live.

On the flip side, I saw Solomon Burke and James Brown a month or two before they died. Both were fantastic (Solomon Burke particularly).

I’ve heard Dylan is pretty bad live, like you can’t even really tell what song he’s playing. Still, though.

And Willie Nelson just put out a great album with Merle last year.

(It is subtle, but fyi, there is a double meaning to “It’s All Going To Pot”)

The problem with Willie live is that he used to play for like 90 minutes with barely a single break in the music. One song would just flow into the next, and it was incredible. At his age he just can’t do that—the endurance and dexterity for the guitar is too hard at that age. Dylan now only plays piano in concerts.

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Yeah, glad I saw Chuck Berry, James Brown and technically Bowie (at the Phoenix Festival, but can’t remember a damn thing about the set apart from a lot of that drum n’ bass stuff he was into at the time).

That said, I’m of the belief that if you weren’t there for the peak of their abilities, it doesn’t really count. Seeing James Brown live is a ticked box, but it certainly wasn’t the ‘doing the splits, hobbling off stage then coming back’ peak of Brown’s career.

That’s the problem with all the comeback gigs, a lot of them are pretty damp squibs compared to their first flourish.

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I think that is the case with some artists but not all of them.

It is probably more the case when a band gets back together just for a cash-in tour than when a career artist plays. I saw people like Neil Young, Prince, David Byrne, Willie Nelson, and Al Green in the 2000s and they were certainly more engaged than a lot of bands that I’ve seen in their prime. I saw a big rap night hosted by the Roots once in the mid-2000s and Big Daddy Kane destroyed everybody on stage. Stuff like that.

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I saw Al Green in the late 1990’s when he started touring again. I saw him in a fairly small venue (Vicar Street in Dublin). Best gig I’ve ever been at.

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OMG… this song. I love it.