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#2004

Is this in reference to something specific?


#2005

#2006

Some of this is probably spin but there’s also probably at least a kernel of truth in it too.


#2007

#2008

It’s TV, but it’s Star Wars;


#2009


#2010

Episode 2:


#2011

I’ve always preferred episode V.


#2012

Where’s Rey? Despite Monopoly Maker’s Promise, ‘Star Wars’ Heroine Is Still Missing

Where is the character Rey in the Star Wars version of Monopoly? In a galaxy far, far away, apparently.

Eighteen months after game-maker Hasbro promised to add the female character to the game by the fall of 2016, the Illinois girl who wrote to them to say “girls matter” is still waiting.

Others are, too.

After inquiries from the Associated Press this week, Pawtucket, Rhode Island-based Hasbro said it made the piece but didn’t release the new version in the United States “due to insufficient interest.” People who bought the all-male game can request a Rey from customer service, spokeswoman Julie Duffy said Wednesday.

“In early 2016, Hasbro updated the 2015 Star Wars: Monopoly game to add a Rey token. This product was sold to retailers in several markets around the world, but is not available for sale in the U.S. due to insufficient interest,” Duffy wrote in an email.

The AP asked Duffy to specify which countries had such sets available, but she did not do so.

Hasbro’s comments this week differ from what the company said it would do in January 2016, amid an online outcry that carried the hashtag #WheresRey.

“We love the passion fans have for Rey, and are happy to announce that we will be making a running change to include her in the Monopoly: Star Wars game available later this year,” Duffy told the AP in an emailed statement at the time. She added that fans who had already purchased the game “can obtain the Rey token by contacting Hasbro Consumer Care when the updated game becomes available later this year.”

Carrie Goldman, of Evanston, Illinois, whose daughter, Annie Rose, wrote the letter that sparked the outcry, said on Wednesday that while she is happy her daughter will be able to get a Rey figure, it’s not exactly how they understood Hasbro’s promise.

“I don’t know if I would call this a running change,” Goldman said. “I would still like to see it where any girl or boy or person who goes to buy the game, Rey is in there. I think that is what we had all understood how it was going to work.”

Goldman posted Annie Rose’s letter on Twitter in January 2016. In it, the then-8-year-old girl asks why Hasbro left out Rey from the set based on Star Wars: The Force Awakens when she is a main character and crucial to the story. All four game pieces were modeled on male characters: Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Finn and Kylo Ren.

“Without her THERE IS NO FORCE AWAKENS! It awakens in her! And without her, the bad guys would have won! Besides, boys and girls need to see that women can be as strong as men!” wrote Annie Rose, who is now 10. “Girls matter!”

One British dad who bought the set in April said he got the version with all male characters, which surprised and disappointed him.

“Rey is the star of the film. You’d expect to have a female character at least,” Ian Henry, of Maidenhead, United Kingdom, told the AP.

He purchased the game for his 4-year-old son from Amazon in April and sent a Twitter message to Hasbro complaining about the omission.

“Star Wars Monopoly just arrived. But what can I tell my kids about their missing hero Ray? #WheresRey #WhyVader?” he tweeted.

Hasbro never responded.

When his 6-year-old daughter plays Star Wars on Xbox, she usually chooses a female character such as Rey or Princess Leia, Henry said. She doesn’t have that choice with Monopoly: Star Wars.

“She’s like, ‘Oh, OK, I have to choose from those ones,’” he said. "Star Wars may be more of a male kind of film. Monopoly is not a boy’s game. It’s anyone’s game."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/wheres-rey-monopoly-makers-promise-star-wars-heroine-is-still-missing-1020330

It’s like a textbook on how NOT to handle a situation.


#2013

Yay for 2D animation and BB8 in a hammock. Reminds me of that level on Jedi Knight Academy where you have to go running around a crashed ship in the desert, salvaging parts for your crashed ship so you can escape, but you have to hop between debris to get around because if you stand on the sand a big fat hungry space worm comes up and eats you. Still the best Star Wars video game.


#2014

That is ridiculous. “Insufficient interest”? Tell her:


#2015

Yeah, as I say, it’s going to held up to future generations as a cautionary tale; this is how to miss the boat in the first place, and then screw up the chance to fix the problem afterwards.

They just don’t want to accept that this needs fixing, and that they look bad by not fixing it. It’s not like that’s an unusual reaction, but big companies have crisis management for situations like this. Well, most do these days.


#2016

It’s almost unbelievable that this could have happened. I’m sure these games go through all kinds of design meetings and approvals, and in all those stages apparently not one person had actually seen the movie? Because anyone who had seen it would look at

All four game pieces were modeled on male characters: Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Finn and Kylo Ren.

and go, uh, wait a minute, Vader isn’t in it at all, and Luke would be better saved for the sequel game.

I can’t even put it down to deliberate sexism, because even if that was a deliberate policy (which actually wouldn’t surprise me in corporate board rooms :frowning: ) somebody should still have said, “Why not Han?”

It seriously is Trump-level incompetence :confused:


#2017

I remember when the first TFA toys came out there was a relative lack of Rey that was explained by them playing down her role in the advance marketing, to preserve the surprise of her being the main hero of the movie (even up to release, it was ambiguous whether Rey or Finn was the young heroic force-user in the film - to the extent that the early toys for Rey didn’t include a lightsaber).

But after that period of coyness passed, there were more Rey toys produced that were in line with her status in the movie. So it seems odd that this oversight still hasn’t been corrected.


#2018

[quote=“davidm, post:2016, topic:5618, full:true”]
uh, wait a minute, Vader isn’t in it at all[/quote]
As I understand it, early versions of Rey’s ‘force vision’ sequence were going to feature a flashback to the duel on Bespin.


#2019

#2020

Vader is cool and sells a lot of merchandise already. That’s why he’s in there. His minimal presence is just the excuse.

It’s not a deliberate sidelining, it’s just institutional; that assumption of “this” over “that”. Boy characters, not girls. We’re really not beyond all that yet.


#2021

How the f–k does Mark Hamill not have a star on the walk of fame yet? And he’s getting one the same day as the Hamilton guy who is probably a 50% chance of being a flash in the pan? Weird system they’ve got.


#2022

In all honesty, because he was in Star Wars, and Slipstream, and then he was a voice actor.

Oh, and who can forget the first live-action Guyver movie?


#2023

Billy Dee Williams has had one for a long time!