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Star Trek: Discovery - discussing S01E15, "Will You Take My Hand?"


#1583

Watching After Trek, I had the horrible realisation that Frakes has basically turned into my dad as he’s aged.

Also, I meant to say this a couple of weeks ago, but I love that they changed the graphics in After Trek for the back half, with signal errors and the ship schematic tagged with ISS Discovery.


#1584

:smile:


#1585

Oh yes, the latest episode. It was good. I like that they’re making it a fairly fast-moving twisty-turny story. As someone who isn’t following the speculation/spoilers too closely, it’s throwing up some fun surprises for me (as well as some slightly more guessable twists).


#1586

I thought this, yes.

I thought this too.


#1587

#1588

So there’s no way that the Discovery actually returns back to its home universe, right? It would be the ultimate twist for a show that loves twisting more than twisted people playing Twister and eating twisted pretzels whilst watching Twister in the background. “We’re making a new Star Trek show and it will be a prequel set in the prime universe… ha, no, not really!” Not that I would want the Discovery to stay in the mirror universe much longer but I could see them managing to make one more jump and wind up in a brand new universe after all.


#1589

I wouldn’t be surprised if they time-travel to the post-Next Gen era.


#1590

Wow.

Watched ep 11 on Sunday and then watched ep 12 tonight.

I disagree the show has been predictable, maybe if you read news sites or spoiler info, or you’re that damn good at extrapolation, but for me it’s been quite a ride.

And I’m loving Isaac’s take on Lorca as a total bastard of a Captain, but one you kind of get behind, kind of a Trek version of Patton, total arsehole but somehow you just end up following his lead.


#1591

A friend and I half-jokingly suggested Quantum Leap, but Star Trek and hopping dimensions.

So Exiles, I guess?


#1592

Would sort of play into the original concept for the show where each season would be a different time period in Trek history.


#1593

One thing I was surprised by: I wasn’t sure about Saru, he’s been that kind of an officious arse so far, but in tonight’s ep when he transported Tyler into L’Rell’s cell, damn! That was a ballsy move by Saru. Really liked that.


#1594

I would be absolutely fine if Saru was captain at the end of this arc.


#1595

I’m a bit let down that, as many suspected, Lorca is from the Mirror Universe. I rather liked the idea of a sketchy “homegrown” starship captain.


#1596

Sliders, actually :wink:


#1597

I was interested that they showed a Captain who was struggling with his demons and hiding it from the people who depended on him, that was a good dramatic concept.

So this twist is a bit of a disappointment there, but it works just fine in context.

And Isaacs is doing an excellent job.


#1598

There’s no way he gets to stay captain, but it’d be neat for Lorca to have a redemptive arc. Technically, opposing the Empire already is one. It’s like Mirror Sisko. That was a bad dude, too, but wonderful to have on your side. Of course, he got a lot better when Sisko had to replace him.


#1599

Preview for issue 2, to be released tomorrow:


#1600

Is there any chance it’s a double-bluff and the Lorca we’re seeing IS the Prime Universe one playing a very complicated long game?


#1601

Nah, I don’t think so… he’s been really intent on making the spore drive work all along… and well, the light sensitivity thing makes it a done deal I think.

However, since everyone is “bad” in the alt-verse and he’s the villain over there, it might mean he’s actually a “good” guy? Though it seems everyone is rotten and he just wanted to overthrow Gregoriou to take her place.


#1602

Oh btw, one thing I liked a lot, and it might be the 1st time we see that sort of thing on screen, is the imperial ship thing we saw, that was powered by a sun… I don’t know if that was supposed to be our sun or just a mini-sun, but it was cool. I wish they’ll explore that a bit more.