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#243

Not in the X-Factor era.


#244

No, it takes a whole season of TV.


#245

Ironically most of the X-Factor long term successes didn’t win the contest.

I remember a good 14 years ago watching the BBC’s Fame Academy and they has a guy called Lemar who was superbly talented and didn’t win. Two years later he released his first single and had a big hit, by that time the winner of the series had already been dropped by his record label.

So maybe even in the reality TV era some of it still counts.


#246

American Idol was the same way. Carrie Underwood was the last truly successful winner and she was Season 4. The show ran for 16 seasons. Then you have Jennifer Hudson who made it to the top ten but was eliminated. She went on to win an Oscar a year or two later!


#247

An increasingly familiar story:

Looking at the full list of BAFTA list of nominations that @PaulF posted above, it doesn’t look as though non-white nominees are being shut out across the board - just that they are lacking in a couple of major categories.

To me that suggests that the problem, if there is one, may lie more on the side of the opportunities that need to be created in those areas for non-white talent, rather than indicating any kind of significant bias at BAFTA.


#248

I think a part of the problem is always the amount of period pieces being so popular in British film and TV.

Specifically for Afro-Caribbean actors they have spoken of more opportunities in the US but none of that applies to South Asians (of which there are more demographically). When your top exports are Downton Abbey and Call the MIdwife you can’t pack them full of BAME lead actors without losing all realism.

Despite that they could have offered Elba a contemporary drama like Luther before he became a star off the back of The Wire.


#249


#250

I, for once, disagree.
Too much bad cinema missed.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/bat-v-supes-zoolander-top-2017-razzie-noms/


#251

Razzies have only been about the “well known” bad for years.

If there was justice Suicide Squad and Ghostbusters would lead that list.


#252

Best Picture
Arrival
Fences
Hacksaw Ridge
Hell or High Water
Hidden Figures
La La Land
Lion
Manchester by the Sea
Moonlight

Best Director
Damien Chazelle, La La Land
Barry Jenkins, Moonlight
Kenneth Lonergan, Manchester by the Sea
Denis Villeneuve, Arrival
Mel Gibson, Hacksaw Ridge

Best Actor
Casey Affleck, Manchester by the Sea
Denzel Washington, Fences
Ryan Gosling, La La Land
Andrew Garfield, Hacksaw Ridge
Viggo Mortensen, Captain Fantastic

Best Actress
Emma Stone, La La Land
Natalie Portman, Jackie
Meryl Streep, Florence Foster Jenkins
Isabelle Huppert, Elle
Ruth Negga, Loving

Best Supporting Actor
Mahershala Ali, Moonlight
Jeff Bridges, Hell or High Water
Dev Patel, Lion
Lucas Hedges, Manchester by the Sea
Michael Shannon, Nocturnal Animals

Best Supporting Actress
Viola Davis, Fences
Michelle Williams, Manchester by the Sea
Naomie Harris, Moonlight
Nicole Kidman, Lion
Octavia Spencer, Hidden Figures

Best Adapted Screenplay
Moonlight
Arrival
Fences
Lion
Hidden Figures

Best Original Screenplay
Manchester by the Sea
La La Land
Hell or High Water
The Lobster
20th Century Women

Best Foreign Language Film
Toni Erdmann
The Salesman
Land of Mine
Tanna
A Man Called Ove

Best Documentary Feature
O.J.: Made in America
13th
Fire at Sea
I Am Not Your Negro
Life Animated

Best Animated Feature
Zootopia
Kubo and the Two Strings
The Red Turtle
My Life As a Zucchini
Moana

Best Film Editing
La La Land
Moonlight
Arrival
Hacksaw Ridge
Hell or High Water

Best Original Song
"City of Stars," La La Land
“Audition (The Fools Who Dream)," La La Land
"How Far I’ll Go," Moana
"Can’t Stop the Feeling," Trolls
“The Empty Chair,” The James Foley Story

Best Original Score
La La Land
Lion
Jackie
Moonlight
Passengers

Best Cinematography
La La Land
Moonlight
Arrival
Silence
Lion

Best Costume Design
Florence Foster Jenkins
La La Land
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Allied
Jackie

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Star Trek Beyond
A Man Called Ove
Suicide Squad

Best Production Design
La La Land
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
Hail, Caesar!
Arrival
Passengers

Sound Editing
Hacksaw Ridge
Arrival
Deepwater Horizon
La La Land
Sully

Sound Mixing
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Hacksaw Ridge
La La Land
Arrival
13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi

Visual Effects
The Jungle Book
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Kubo and the Two Strings
Doctor Strange
Deepwater Horizon

Best Short Film, Live Action
Timecode
Silent Nights
La Femme et le TGV
Ennemis Interieurs
Sing

Best Short Film, Animated
Piper
Pearl
Borrowed Time
Blind Vaysha
Pear Cider and Cigarettes

Best Documentary, Short Subject
Joe’s Violin
The White Helmets
Extremis
Watani: My Homeland
4.1 Miles

Nothing terrible in there, really, aside from maybe Gibson in Director. I enjoyed all the Best Picture nominees.

My ranking would be:

  1. Manchester By The Sea
  2. Hell or High Water
  3. Arrival
  4. Moonlight
  5. La La Land
  6. Hidden Figures
  7. Fences
  8. Lion
  9. Hacksaw Ridge

All worth watching though.


#253

So… no Deadpool.


#254

I would love to see La La Land clean up as it was probably the most original movie out last year.


#255

Suicide Squad tho.


#256

It’s already tied with All About Eve and Titanic for the most nominations ever.


#257

I was about to complain about the article missing out the comma in “Hail, Caesar!” but then I saw how they decided to spell Passengers and gave up entirely.

The animated features category surprised me by not putting in Finding Dory. Poor Pixar.
Hopefully this means that Kubo can win.


#258

Have you seen it? :slight_smile:


#259

Finding Dory is weird. It’s the 8th highest-grossing movie of all time domestically, but everyone seems to have forgotten it in the last six months.


#260

Irony, there.


#261

Yes. I preferred it to Moana and was surprised that I liked it as much as I did (because I never found the appeal of Finding Nemo).


#262

Nah
Manchester By The Sea was the best movie of the last year…so it should don’t ya think?