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#4802

I can’t think of a time where single issue artists across a single storyline has every worked.

It felt like it was rushed into production and was promoted as “superstar artist” every issue which only last 4-5 depending on your tastes.

Artists per arc sure but 6 artists of completely different style over 6 issues. Pass.


#4803

I believe the x books work well when they are all connected at some level.
10 months of character development and following different themes with b/c story plot points that come together for a 2 month crossover over 4 titles. (8 issues in total)

This worked for me personally as I didn’t have to pick up the books I didn’t enjoy but it was always good to see the band come togeather for a big event.

Hell make it every 2 years.

This way you get reader commitment. Encourage dipping into other books if they wish and increase the potential value of back issue purchases for stores to take advantage of.

I don’t think it’s rocket science. And there is plenty of material to draw from.


#4804

Well I think it works a lot better when the books aren’t connected and clearly defined, so maybe it is hard to please everyone.


#4805

This is how he’s used in the new PS4 game.


#4806

I’m with you there.

I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad idea that they have now, they’re essentially having one weekly X-Men book run like a TV series with multiple writers, a bit like Spider-Man did after Brand New Day. Then it’s down to the execution.

The X-Men and Avengers lines have been the worst in recent times suffering from eternal reboot syndrome. Every 10 months there’s a jumping on point that I think are increasingly being regarded as jumping off points. By the time they gather the team together, new team, new number 1, nothing started ever goes anywhere.


#4807

#4808

This reminds of the panel I went to before Fear Itself where Matt Fraction told this great story about how he kept asking Joe Q if he could kill Bucky again. Trying to retell it would not do it any justice at all(even if I could remember all the details) but from what I call remember they ask him to do an event, he comes to to the meeting, gives them his pitch, and the climax of the story is… Bucky gets killed. :blush:


#4809

Sigh.

Okay. Whatever.

SIGH.

He lead the Fantastic Four so why not the Avengers.


#4810

I think it is a great move. T’challa is a great leader. BUT… after reading that linked article I am still not going to read the Avengers. Until Jen’s intelligence and personality are restored to She-Hulk, I will continue to boycott the Avengers.


#4811

That’ll teach 'em.


#4812

And with team books, if you don’t give them 30-50 issues for long form storytelling there really is no point in doing them.


#4813

Agreed
Busieks Avengers
Hickmans fan four and Avengers
Probably the best team book runs I can think of in the last 20 years


#4814

Tynion IV Detective Comics
Johns Justice League


#4815

20 years? Ultimates and New X-Men.


#4816

Waid-Wieringo FF


#4817

Yes sorry my bad! Agree with all of those


#4818

Different section of the book shelf!


#4819

I’ve never read this - is it soemthingn worth tracking down

I do see it mentioned from time to time


#4820

This and McDuffie-Pelletier FF.


#4821

It will be unsurprising to most that I thought the Waid-Weiringo run is massively overrated. For what it’s worth, here’s my top 10 FF runs from early 300’s to the end of Hickman’s run.

1. Simonson 334-354
2. Straczynski/Mckone 527-541
=3. Englehart & Buscema/Pollard - 304-333
=3. Hickman/Various 570-587 600-611 + FF 1-22
5. Defalco/Ryan 356-416
=6. Waid/Wieringo 60-70, 500-524
=6. McDuffie/Pelletier 544-553
8. Millar/Hitch 554-569
9. Marin/Pacheco 35-50
10. Claremont/Larocca 4-32