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[craggy]

I remember someone, I forgot who, said the prison was going to happen at the end of this season but not sure if that was only rumored but that was when Daranbont was in charge, so who knows now.

I'm enjoying the nice little tie-in's with the comic, I think they are working toward finding out that you don't have to be bit to be infected with Shane was talking about how military were shooting PEOPLE down that were not even walkers... And also when the dead cops were infected but not even bit, then Shane using the same knife to cut himself, that we assume he used to stab a walker even though that scene was skipped, maybe on purpose so we could forget it easily and it adds the shock factor for if he were to get infected..

Is it true Jon Bernthal is signed to do a pilot for another show?

first thing I thought when Rick cut himself to attract the zombie then stabbed it was "zombie aids". I mean, in the first season, when Rick and Glen were getting disguised as walkers, there's mention of "don't get any blood on your skin", which certainly seems like a good idea, even if just as a precaution.

Shane could definitely end up getting infected as a result of this episode, Rick too. I don't think it's likely though.

[Todd Gambrel]

Hopefully all the haters who have been saying that nothing is happening lately will eat crow after the last two episodes. This past ep felt more like a movie and managed to cram a bunch of stuff inside.

Plus, Rick gets zombie kill of the month. You'll know it when you see it.

Why would they need to eat crow? Did this past episode go back in time and make the last 2 episodes good? No, it didn't. Yes, this episode was a HUGE improvement on this half of the season so far, but it doesn't change the crapfest that was the previous 2 episodes.

Plus, the huge blunder with the walker in the field while Shane was in the passenger seat both coming and going, and the fact that apparently we can kill zombies and have huge amounts of blood splatter while mouths are open and open cuts are everywhere and not get infected. I can live with that though.

It was finally an episode that had me wanting more, which is all I can ask for. Though Andrea didn't steal a knife and stab Lori though. Oh well.

[John Mosby]

Heh.

http://www.thisiswhy...tack-bed-covers

[Chris D]

Though Andrea didn't steal a knife and stab Lori though. Oh well.

I was mostly hoping that Maggie would punch them both in the face. Because I think they could both use a good, hard punch in the face. I don't think the show has represented women very well at all, as the two lead female characters annoy the crap out of me. I like Maggie, at least.

I actually didn't think this episode was much better than the last couple. The Shane/Rick character moments were nice. Those are the two guys carrying this show, after all. But there was a lot of stupid stuff going on, and the previews for the next episode make this episode look like more pointless filler.

[Christian U]

I don't get all the Lori hate, really. I've not seen the latest episode, mind you, but generally, I think she's not really all that annoying, or unlikeable.

[Rory Abel]

I don't get all the Lori hate, really. I've not seen the latest episode, mind you, but generally, I think she's not really all that annoying, or unlikeable.

I think her portrayal has been very uneven. She got a lot of complaints from the first episodes because of how much fun she seemed to be having with Shane/sex (which also kind of undercuts her defense now). This past episode does a lot of damage to her as a character though as she's just in the wrong in every way.

[Jim Ohara]

I dunno if it's uneven. I think Lori is just a really complicate character. The actress is playing Lori as someone who's barely holding it together, going from one extreme to the other. So in one scene she's all panicked and 'let's make dinner for the men so they feel normal', in another she's toying with killing Shane, in another she's playful and fun. I think it's actually great to have characters who are wildly variable and often wrong in what they believe. Makes for a complicated villain (Lori and Shane are a much better fit for each other than Lori and Rick).

I wouldn't be surprised if Lori ends up starting the affair with Shane again at some point.

[Rory Abel]

I dunno if it's uneven. I think Lori is just a really complicate character. The actress is playing Lori as someone who's barely holding it together, going from one extreme to the other. So in one scene she's all panicked and 'let's make dinner for the men so they feel normal', in another she's toying with killing Shane, in another she's playful and fun. I think it's actually great to have characters who are wildly variable and often wrong in what they believe. Makes for a complicated villain (Lori and Shane are a much better fit for each other than Lori and Rick).

I wouldn't be surprised if Lori ends up starting the affair with Shane again at some point.

Honestly, that's not the sense I get from her performance at all. But you've always been more forgiving of Walking Dead (botht the comic and show) than I have. There's no way she's going back to Shane, period, even if he does survive past this season.

[David Meadows]

There's no way she's going back to Shane, period, even if he does survive past this season.

Considering that the show has become a soap opera (maybe it always was, and I just never noticed before), I would say that her getting back with Shane is inevitable. That's Standard Soap Opera Plot #1.

Edited by David Meadows, 02 March 2012 - 09:14 AM.

[GordonM]

If Shane dies we riot.

[Todd Gambrel]

Anyone who doesn't like spoilers, avoid the Blu-Ray advert that AMC put out for Season 2. They screw up bigtime. Wish I could unsee it.

[Rory Abel]

Considering that the show has become a soap opera (maybe it always was, and I just never noticed before), I would say that her getting back with Shane is inevitable. That's Standard Soap Opera Plot #1.

It's not going to happen. They shut the door on that possibility entirely when Shane tried to rape her in the first season. They've driven home over and over again that she's with Rick and will never go back to Shane. If she did it would undermine every single thing that happened since Rick came back.

While I think the show has a lot of problems it's nowhere near a soap opera . Oz was a soap opera, Walking Dead is not.

[Jim Ohara]

Considering that the show has become a soap opera (maybe it always was, and I just never noticed before), I would say that her getting back with Shane is inevitable. That's Standard Soap Opera Plot #1.

I think most of the great shows are really just soap operas. Some hide it better than others, but things like Walking Dead, Mad Men, Lost, Game of Thrones, BSG, even X Men and Avengers comics - they're at the best when they're one step removed from Eastenders and Days of our Lives. It's the part I like best about all these shows really - I don't really care about the action, effects or fantasy elements. I care about complicated people in screwed up relationships. The best scenes are typically two people talking and banging heads together.

While I think the show has a lot of problems it's nowhere near a soap opera . Oz was a soap opera, Walking Dead is not.

Everyone is either scheming, fighting or screwing every other character. The zombies are kinda background noise. Maybe we have different definitions of what soap opera means.

[David Meadows]

I'm with Jim on this. I wasn't using "soap opera" as an insult in this context.

[Rory Abel]

I think most of the great shows are really just soap operas. Some hide it better than others, but things like Walking Dead, Mad Men, Lost, Game of Thrones, BSG, even X Men and Avengers comics - they're at the best when they're one step removed from Eastenders and Days of our Lives. It's the part I like best about all these shows really - I don't really care about the action, effects or fantasy elements. I care about complicated people in screwed up relationships. The best scenes are typically two people talking and banging heads together.


Everyone is either scheming, fighting or screwing every other character. The zombies are kinda background noise. Maybe we have different definitions of what soap opera means.

It's a drama. Soap Operas are melodramas and tend to involve ridiculous developments, sudden changes in character (like wrestling characters will switch from babyfaces to heels depending on what's needed) and drawn out plots. In Walking Dead everyone is not scheming, fighting or screwing every other characters. There's almost no scheming in fact, like in the comic everyone is pretty up front about what they're thinking and feeling. There's a total sum of 4 characters that are screwing (assuming that Rick and Lori are having sex again). That leaves fighting, which is conflict and the root of nearly every single type of story on television. There's a difference between dramas and soap operas. As I said, if you watch Oz, it's clearly a soap opera as the melodrama was the focus. The walking dead is a very different type of show.

Edited by Rory Abel, 02 March 2012 - 05:27 PM.

[Christian U]

There's actually a lot of tension and scheming going on, it's just not very upfront. Well, in the show there is.

In the books, yeah, everybody is very upfront indeed. Which sometimes is nice and sometimes just unrealistic. Um, to be honest, I don't think Kirkman is a great writer of dialogue.

[Rory Abel]

There's actually a lot of tension and scheming going on, it's just not very upfront. Well, in the show there is.

There's definitely a lot of tension but I'm not seeing any scheming going on. Unless we have different definitions of scheming.

[Jim Ohara]

There's a total sum of 4 characters that are screwing (assuming that Rick and Lori are having sex again).

Shane's screwed Lori. Lori's screwed Rick. Shane's screwed Andrea. Dale wants to screw Andrea. Glenn screwed Maggie. Daryl and Carol have something weird going on that's either going to lead to sex or a Mommy-Son thing. Of all the main speaking characters that leaves Carl who's 10, T-dog who can't seem to catch a break and Hershel who's widowed.

It's the end of the world. Damn right they should all be banging each other.

[Rory Abel]

Shane's screwed Lori. Lori's screwed Rick. Shane's screwed Andrea. Dale wants to screw Andrea. Glenn screwed Maggie. Daryl and Carol have something weird going on that's either going to lead to sex or a Mommy-Son thing. Of all the main speaking characters that leaves Carl who's 10, T-dog who can't seem to catch a break and Hershel who's widowed.

It's the end of the world. Damn right they should all be banging each other.

When did Dale and Shane screw Andrea, am I completely forgetting something?

Edited by Rory Abel, 02 March 2012 - 05:46 PM.

[Jim Ohara]

Shane and Andrea got it on in the car after zombie hunting and nearly getting killed earlier his season. Dale's been pining after Andrea since season 1 but she's always rebuffed him. He was ready to die with her, remember?