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[Chic McGregor]

Brave tops box office.

http://uk.movies.yah...-082901999.html

"The film left American hero Abraham Lincoln in the dust."

[Barry Matthew Ween]

Not unexpected. Brave has the Pixar logo and it's going to attract families. Plus it's a good movie and those three boys partially steal the show.

I also liked Abraham Lincoln. But I think people have the wrong impression of what the movie is about. I just talked to a friend of mine last night about the movie and after my description of the movie as well as the book it's based on, she's now interested in seeing it.

[Ogul]

I'm shocked that a Pixar family movie beat out a niche R-rated horror film. Don't those usually only make like $20m or so?

[Will Carper]

Not unexpected. Brave has the Pixar logo and it's going to attract families. Plus it's a good movie and those three boys partially steal the show.

I also liked Abraham Lincoln. But I think people have the wrong impression of what the movie is about. I just talked to a friend of mine last night about the movie and after my description of the movie as well as the book it's based on, she's now interested in seeing it.

The Lincoln vampire movie trailer makes it seem. SO. Serious. Millar makes it seem as if that's not true, so if that's the case, then I might see it. But if a movie called Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter doesn't laugh at itself, then... why?

[Mike Cooper]

^{Yep, the American movie that depicts Scots as rough-and-tumble beardy redhead stereotypes did better than the horror movie directed by a Russian?
This hardly rouses my blood, as a Scot.}

Edited by Mike Cooper, 26 June 2012 - 04:34 AM.

[John Mosby]

Lincoln is a high-concept outing for adults that's PLAYED straight, but has its tongue firmly in cheek and a remit for the ridiculously OTT action. It's a film for which you should immediately suspend disbelief because it's clear they're going to have fun. It's clearly a Bekmambetov film in the tonal vein of Wanted. I'm a bit surprised it hasn't had better word of mouth, but, yes, it is an 'R' in the States.

Brave is just family fun - full of Scottish stereotypes but done with top-notch Pixar animation, a sprinkling of great music, a slightly edgier story than normal and enough heart that it would take a very hardened Scot to be offended by its backdrop. I saw it Edinburgh and it went down a treat. Ideal family summer outing.

(See both my reviews at www.theregoestheday.com)

[Chic McGregor]

Lincoln is a high-concept outing for adults that's PLAYED straight, but has its tongue firmly in cheek and a remit for the ridiculously OTT action. It's a film for which you should immediately suspend disbelief because it's clear they're going to have fun. It's clearly a Bekmambetov film in the tonal vein of Wanted. I'm a bit surprised it hasn't had better word of mouth, but, yes, it is an 'R' in the States.

Brave is just family fun - full of Scottish stereotypes but done with top-notch Pixar animation, a sprinkling of great music, a slightly edgier story than normal and enough heart that it would take a very hardened Scot to be offended by its backdrop. I saw it Edinburgh and it went down a treat. Ideal family summer outing.

(See both my reviews at www.theregoestheday.com)

Sadly, courtesy of Brit Nat brainwashing, there exists a unique class of self-loathers in Scotland.

Unless a movie portays Scots as alcoholic, junkie, moron's attaining a minimal state of sobriety long enough only to prepare a deep fried mars bar for lunch, then I'm afraid they will come creeping out of the woodwork to point and grunt their monosyllabic insults - like a remake of 'Dawn of the McDead' .

Best to expect the full Greet Chorus on this one, then you won't be disappointed.

I'm shocked that a Pixar family movie beat out a niche R-rated horror film. Don't those usually only make like $20m or so?

Wouldn't know. Just quoting the American article since someone started an Abraham Lincoln thread here.

[Rory Abel]

I'm shocked that a Pixar family movie beat out a niche R-rated horror film. Don't those usually only make like $20m or so?

It didn't even do that though. It did a dismal $16.6 mil. While the big ticket superhero movies coming out in just two weeks it's not going to do well at all.

[Todd Gross]

Gotta the Hollywood mindset:
Analysts Say ‘Brave’s’ Big Open Still Missed The Bull’s Eye

With $66.7M in domestic ticket sales, the weekend was “good, but not Pixar great,” Cowen and Co analyst Doug Creutz says this morning. Even though the film will be profitable, “we remain concerned that the creative direction of Pixar may be wobbling as Brave is now the second consecutive film to receive less-than-rave reviews,” he adds. Brave‘s 74% positive rating at Rotten Tomatoes makes it one of just three Pixar releases to fall below 90%. “While it may have been easy to write-off Cars 2 as a toy marketing campaign gone wrong, the fact that Pixar has released a creatively ‘average’ original film is of incrementally more concern,” Creutz says. He estimates that theaters here sold about 8M tickets for Brave, which is comparable to other recent Pixar films but is “well below” the levels for films released between 1999-2006. “Given the price Disney paid for Pixar, and the importance of Pixar as an engine of creative content for the company, we take the risk of erosion of Pixar’s creative greatness very seriously.”

Lazard Capital Markets’ Barton Crockett also expected more. He predicted that Brave would open domestically at $81M, which would have set a record at Pixar for a non-sequel and would have put the film on a trajectory to generate $260M here. He notes this morning that the film “missed our ambitious outlook” and reduced his domestic forecast for the film to $254M. He adds that the $20.2M box office for DreamWorks Animation’s Madagascar 3: Europe’s Most Wanted “suggests no impact from Brave.”

But Wells Fargo Securities’ Marci Ryvicker was pleased. She says the film beat her expectation of $63M. Disney shares are down 1.7% in early trading, roughly in line with the overall market.

[Ogul]

Lazard Capital Markets’ Barton Crockett also expected more. He predicted that Brave would open domestically at $81M, which would have set a record at Pixar for a non-sequel

Why would he do that? I would have thought $60m to be ridiculously ambitious, given how terrible the commercials and trailers for the film were. If this hadn't been a Pixar release it would have done Hoodwinked numbers.

[HowardAshton]

We in England don't get Brave until the 13th of August, outrage!

[stephanie familiar]

i liked the music (especially the non-lyrical stuff during the credits) and the animation was fantastic (saw it in 3D) and it did have some great funny moments, but the plot just felt so done. also, i didn't expect the whole

Spoiler

mother turning into a bear thing.

that was pretty silly.

overall it was okay, and like i said it had some good moments and looked fantastic, but the plot was tired.

[James L. Sarandis]

I enjoyed it, and the mother daughter dynamic was very nice,

[Christian U]

Why would he do that? I would have thought $60m to be ridiculously ambitious, given how terrible the commercials and trailers for the film were. If this hadn't been a Pixar release it would have done Hoodwinked numbers.

I liked what I've seen of the trailers well enough, but whyever you'd simply product a record-setting number for a film and then call it a disappointment when it doesn't reach that is beyond me. Unless you're just being a dick.

Edited by Christian U, 23 July 2012 - 08:27 AM.

[Chic McGregor]

i liked the music (especially the non-lyrical stuff during the credits) and the animation was fantastic (saw it in 3D) and it did have some great funny moments, but the plot just felt so done. also, i didn't expect the whole

Spoiler

mother turning into a bear thing.

that was pretty silly.

overall it was okay, and like i said it had some good moments and looked fantastic, but the plot was tired.

Erm,.. is it logical; to diss something for being predictable AND unpredictable at the same time?

See it is through the $200 million milestone week 4

[stephanie familiar]

Erm,.. is it logical; to diss something for being predictable AND unpredictable at the same time?

yup. the bear thing was silly and i didn't expect it, and the whole princess who just wants the freedom to choose her own lover and her own way of life was entirely predictable.