Dystopia Now!
#1
Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:57 AM
I think the only dystopian future that hasn't been presented is the following.
We Got It Coming Dystopia.
I don't think I've seen a story where the Earth deserves not only destruction; but a bitter tortured one because of our actions.
Pick your dystopian future but choose wisely!
#2
Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:36 AM
I saw the ROAD WARRIOR today and it made me think about all the dystopian futures that have been presented in fiction. Now the MAD MAX trilogy is directly responsible for FIST OF THE NORTH STAR and several other projects and as far as I figure that has been the most original idea for a twisted future since.
I think the only dystopian future that hasn't been presented is the following.
We Got It Coming Dystopia.
I don't think I've seen a story where the Earth deserves not only destruction; but a bitter tortured one because of our actions.
Pick your dystopian future but choose wisely!
I think The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi certainly goes that way...
#3
Posted 27 May 2012 - 03:10 AM
And, really, do not dystopiae go all the way back to being booted out of Eden?
#4
Posted 27 May 2012 - 03:50 AM
Metropolis
And, really, do not dystopiae go all the way back to being booted out of Eden?
No I don't think so... There's too many ways to interpret the concept of "Eden" to begin with. I think the dystopian concept started surfacing after the industrial revolution, and people realizing what the world could become thereafter.
I think the absolute worst dystopia I've ever seen in a movie was "The Road"... But that's a ver Mad-Max type of dystopia, and I think it was the utter bleakness of the movie that made it seem like the worst possible outcome.
#5
Posted 27 May 2012 - 03:52 AM
I think the absolute worst dystopia I've ever seen in a movie was "The Road"... But that's a ver Mad-Max type of dystopia, and I think it was the utter bleakness of the movie that made it seem like the worst possible outcome.
Also, because it came out of Cormac McCarthy's head.
#6
Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:00 PM
Metropolis
A couple of years ago, I watched Metropolis and Blade Runner back to back. That makes for an interesting evening...
My personal favorite is Rollerball (1975).
The Mad Max trilogy and others like that are better classified as post-apocalyptic, rather than dystopian. Dystopian worlds have an organization to them with some fatal flaw. Post-apocalyptic is really more anarchy and survival.
#7
Posted 27 May 2012 - 04:24 PM
I think The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi certainly goes that way...
That's a fantastic book
#8
Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:46 PM
#9
Posted 27 May 2012 - 05:58 PM
#10
Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:01 PM
Why did you interrupt me, Will? That wasn't very polite.
#11
Posted 27 May 2012 - 06:01 PM
#12
Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:05 AM
#13
Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:46 AM
That's a fantastic book
Well that's good to hear as I recently bought the e-book off of one of Kindle's special offers they do. It certainly sounded the most intriguing of the books I had to choose from.
#14
Posted 28 May 2012 - 01:55 AM
That was one of the more surprising parts of "The Road", was where I figured out it wasn't a post-nuclear world or a planet where we were responsible for messing it up. Wasn't it just a meteor strike or something that had caused the nuclear winter conditions? An act of God or nature. There was no sens eof blame or regret, just bleakness.
Stephen Baxter is well worth checking out for some very pithy post-catastrophe short stories, such as his "Phase Space" collection of short stories. That contains amongst other things one of the bleakest stories of just how crappy life could be, with life on Earth reduced to a mass of huddled penguin-type creatures on a post-nuclear winter scenario.
"Riddley Walker" by Russell Hoban is a great read too - written entirely in this phonetic pidgin English that the people speak. It comes across initially as a medieval story until you realise later that its a post-nuclear future.
#15
Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:36 AM
A couple of years ago, I watched Metropolis and Blade Runner back to back. That makes for an interesting evening...
My personal favorite is Rollerball (1975).
The Mad Max trilogy and others like that are better classified as post-apocalyptic, rather than dystopian. Dystopian worlds have an organization to them with some fatal flaw. Post-apocalyptic is really more anarchy and survival.
Listen buddy, you don't define dystopia for me!!!
If you push me I'm not above souping up a Hyundai and terrorizing the highways from NYC to Texas to show you the error of your ways!
#16
Posted 28 May 2012 - 05:35 AM
Death Race 2012 it is!Listen buddy, you don't define dystopia for me!!!
If you push me I'm not above souping up a Hyundai and terrorizing the highways from NYC to Texas to show you the error of your ways!
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#17
Posted 28 May 2012 - 06:33 AM
Is it still worth a read if you know that going in?Aren't most dystopia's presented as cautionary tales in some ways, where the disaster happens because we had it coming?
That was one of the more surprising parts of "The Road", was where I figured out it wasn't a post-nuclear world or a planet where we were responsible for messing it up. Wasn't it just a meteor strike or something that had caused the nuclear winter conditions? An act of God or nature. There was no sens eof blame or regret, just bleakness.
Stephen Baxter is well worth checking out for some very pithy post-catastrophe short stories, such as his "Phase Space" collection of short stories. That contains amongst other things one of the bleakest stories of just how crappy life could be, with life on Earth reduced to a mass of huddled penguin-type creatures on a post-nuclear winter scenario.
"Riddley Walker" by Russell Hoban is a great read too - written entirely in this phonetic pidgin English that the people speak. It comes across initially as a medieval story until you realise later that its a post-nuclear future.
#18
Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:15 AM
Stephen Baxter is well worth checking out for some very pithy post-catastrophe short stories, such as his "Phase Space" collection of short stories. That contains amongst other things one of the bleakest stories of just how crappy life could be, with life on Earth reduced to a mass of huddled penguin-type creatures on a post-nuclear winter scenario.
The amusing thing is, Baxter considers stories like that to be happy endings...
#19
Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:44 PM
#20
Posted 29 May 2012 - 02:40 AM
Absolutely, which is why I don't mind saying this up front to potential readers. It's not a straight out twist like The Village - you know from page one that something's odd and this isn't just our world in the past. And its worth reading for the language alone.Is it still worth a read if you know that going in?
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