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[Steve Sensible]

I still hope Levitt is Dick Grayson.

He's just a police officer named John Blake.

[Arjan Dirkse]

He's just a police officer named John Blake.

Awww...well too bad.

[Johnny Henning]

I think in spirit he could fill the Robin role, but he won't be putting this on any time soon:

[Arjan Dirkse]

I think in spirit he could fill the Robin role, but he won't be putting this on any time soon:

Haha, well no that wasn't what I was expecting. But yes, symbolically he could be Robin, if he becomes Bruce's succesor in a way, or if he's inspired by Bruce.

[HowardAshton]

I have a theory he could be a Jean-Paul Valley ish character, but that's purely guesswork.

[Dave Wallace]

Read the two Vengeance Of Bane specials from way back the other night. Still love the first one and hope that they stick pretty close to that origin.

Yeah, I read the first one for the first time recently and thought it was pretty good, and certainly something that could fit in Nolan's bat-verse.

[Johnny Henning]

I have a theory he could be a Jean-Paul Valley ish character, but that's purely guesswork.

In the trailer, it appears (hard to say for sure) that Selena is speaking to Blake when she says "you should be as afraid of him [Bane] as I am." To me that does set up a potential face-to-face confrontation between Blake and Bane. I'm sure someone's pored over all the available footage to see if there is any differences in the various images of Batman shown so far to indicate (a) if someone else might be wearing the suit than Bale or (b) if the suits are ever different in two separate scenes.

Though this was funny though: http://gotchamovies....igins-in-batman

[Steve Sensible]

New trailer:

[Hank Cannon]

Heh,

"My wife?"

This movie is probably going to be glorious and gut wrenching.

[Robert B]

They're starting to show too much in the trailers.

Of course, I could always stop watching them...

[steveuk]

I'm quitting this thread now. See you after the film opens.

[craggy]

how long? i might follow steve's example and leave the thread soon. saw a lot in that trailer.
when bruce come out of...wherever...he appears to be visibly limping, and then he's got a cane when alfred is driving him home. maybe not quite the level of breakage as comic book bane inflicted, but it certainly seems ol' bats gets his clock cleaned.

[Chris D]

They're starting to show too much in the trailers.

Of course, I could always stop watching them...

More and more I've been avoiding all the pre-release marketing for big movies. I've completely avoided all the Spider-Man stuff, for example, because it seems like they've released half the movie online already. I basically ignored all Prometheus trailers too. I want to go into these movies as fresh as possible.

[Robert B]

It's not so much that the trailers are giving the plot away, but that they're giving away all of the cool setpieces and a lot of the cool little moments. Which, in a movie like this, is often more important than the plot!

[al-x]

Hello:

I don't know too much about the film,
but I can make out a couple of things
from the trailers, and that is not good
for me. I want to be surprised so... I
am over and out.


Al...

[Johnny Henning]

I find that with the movies like these - action adventure superhero - the spoilers actually don't end up spoiling very much. With Avengers, it didn't spoil anything knowing Hawkeye was mind-controlled by Loki or that Thanos showed up at the end. The critics were terrified of talking about Cabin In The Woods and when I saw it, the movie intentionally doesn't hold anything back. There is no last minute twist or reveal that would've been spoiled if you had heard about it. M Night Shymalan's Sixth Sense and Unbreakable could be spoiled, I admit, but I think the concern about spoilers is getting a bit phobic lately. Is there a name for pathological fear of knowing what's going to happen? Precognophobia?

For most movies - especially genre movies - it's actually hard to spoil them because the genre itself follows a predictable form.

[craggy]

I think it's just that so many films follow such a predictable formula that you can usually figure it out within the first 10-15minutes anyway (assuming there's a nice padding opening credits sequence, if not, cut that in half) just by having a vague idea of the premise and actors. But at least then you're in your seat, you've remortgaged your house for the ticket and popcorn and are damn sure invested in sitting and watching it. If you can tell the plot from the trailers, and there's not much else that's really interesting you about the film, then why would you pay those extortionate sums to go see it?

[Johnny Henning]

Exactly - I'm cutting down the risks that I will be wasting my money on a stupid movie by absorbing everything they throw out about it. If I'm still intrigued, there is a better chance I'll like it.

But, again, if I'm honest, even when I've been "spoiled" in movies - and some movies like THE VILLAGE pretty much broadcast it no matter how hard they try not to - I can't really say my experience of the movie was spoiled in any way. Like with the Village - I still liked it a lot better than I thought I would.

Or Avengers, knowing a specific detail in the film - like about Hawkeye or Thanos - did not affect my experience of the movie at all because, honestly, it wasn't a significant revelation.

Now, if you told me who Tyler Durden really was then it would be a different experience for that film, or if you revealed how the Transported Man worked before I saw Prestige, but I really doubt DKR can really be "spoiled" if they reveal a few plot points because it will be much more like The Avengers in that regard than a story dependent upon its big reveals.

In other words, I really don't think you will be able to put together the plot from the trailers to any significant degree and it may be that the trailers are actually setting you up for something unexpected. So you could be better off watching them before you go into the movie.

[Dave Wallace]

I don't mind knowing generalities about films (premise, actors, director, genre and so on) - those are the things that get me interested in a film. I don't even mind getting a taster of some of the big 'wow' moments to pique my interest. But back when I used to seek out every available piece of information about good-looking movies before they came out, I do remember feeling that some moments might have worked better if I'd have seen them for the first time at the cinema rather than in some grainy leaked photos or footage.

I agree, though, such "spoilers" usually don't completely ruin the movie (unless it's a big twist along the lines you mention, that really shouldn't be known in advance).

[al-x]

Hello:

I only saw Wallace's posting in this page, but from the trailers I
can tell that:

Spoiler

Bane finds out that Bruce Wayne is Batman and beats up Wayne and destroys Batman stuff. Bruce manages to gather himself back together and there will be a big showdown. Throw in Catwoman
somewhere in there. etc..

If I can figure that out, I feel it is a little too much given away.


Al...