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[Chris D]

I don't think Brave will do insane money because of the female protagonist. I wouldn't be surprised if it fell out of the top ten entirely.

Having now looked at the performances of some of the last few Pixar movies that weren't Toy Story 3, I feel that my prediction for it is way over-inflated. But I still needed a family film to put up there so I'm not sure what I would replace it with.

[Robert B]

Having now looked at the performances of some of the last few Pixar movies that weren't Toy Story 3, I feel that my prediction for it is way over-inflated. But I still needed a family film to put up there so I'm not sure what I would replace it with.

If we were talking international then I think Ice Age 3 would be a safe bet as Gar alluded but I don't think it'll do all that great in America, compared to other releases. Wouldn't be surprised if it beat out Brave in America, though.

Edited by Robert B, 16 April 2012 - 11:07 PM.

[craggy]

I think. Movies will make money, people will get paid. What they spend on a shot of one guy pulling his gloves on will cost more than I make in a year.

[Robert B]

I think. Movies will make money, people will get paid. What they spend on a shot of one guy pulling his gloves on will cost more than I make in a year.

I wouldn't bet against any of those predictions. Lock the thread!

[garjones]

I don't think Brave will do insane money because of the female protagonist. I wouldn't be surprised if it fell out of the top ten entirely.

You were predicting Cars 2 would break all records last year and I raised the problem that it doesn't appeal to girls. That may well be our biases with our kids but the same issue in reverse could happen with Brave. I read a Time piece about Pixar the other day and they'd changed the original pitch from a princess in the more traditional 'Disney Princess' mold to a more tomboyish one and upped the action quota.

It's a difficult one to predict as it isn't quite following a set template.

[Chris D]

You were predicting Cars 2 would break all records last year and I raised the problem that it doesn't appeal to girls.

It's also worth noting that the biggest movie of the year thus far also has a female protaganist with a bow and arrow. Not that Brave and The Hunger Games are in any way similar beyond that. Just thought it was something to throw into the mix for the hell of it.

[garjones]

If we were talking international then I think Ice Age 3 would be a safe bet as Gar alluded but I don't think it'll do all that great in America, compared to other releases. Wouldn't be surprised if it beat out Brave in America, though.

Ice Age 4. I don't actually know why Ice Age 3 was such a huge international hit, there's nothing particular about its content over other cartoons. My mate that runs a cinema said it was his second highest earner that year and he thought it was just timing in the UK. It was the summer holiday period and launched with no other family films against it. Public Enemies was the other main release.

Interestingly they did a simultaneous international release which Disney tend not to do and stagger them to fit local holiday weekends. I wonder how many people just download something like The Muppets or Up that took months to reach many countries after the US release. I've explained a few times time that the reason they do that is to maximise takings at matinees when kids are off school but it may not be the best policy any more when it's so easy to get a good copy if you leave that gap.

[craggy]

Ice Age 4. I don't actually know why Ice Age 3 was such a huge international hit, there's nothing particular about its content over other cartoons. My mate that runs a cinema said it was his second highest earner that year and he thought it was just timing in the UK. It was the summer holiday period and launched with no other family films against it. Public Enemies was the other main release.

Interestingly they did a simultaneous international release which Disney tend not to do and stagger them to fit local holiday weekends. I wonder how many people just download something like The Muppets or Up that took months to reach many countries after the US release. I've explained a few times time that the reason they do that is to maximise takings at matinees when kids are off school but it may not be the best policy any more when it's so easy to get a good copy if you leave that gap.

I paid to see The Muppets, but it was out of respect for the creators, not the shoddy release dates. Whilst waiting for it, I did download Tron 2 so I could watch that again, rather than buy the DVD. And, I think another Disney movie.

[Stephen G]

What a CBR poll shows: http://spinoff.comic...d-summer-movie/

Men’s picks for Most Anticipated Summer Movie
1. The Avengers — 31%
2. The Dark Knight Rises — 23%
3. The Bourne Legacy — 14%
4. Men in Black 3 — 8%
5. Prometheus — 7%

Women’s picks for Most Anticipated Summer Movie
1. Snow White and the Huntsman — 22%
2. The Avengers — 16%
3. Men in Black 3 — 13%
4. The Dark Knight Rises — 10%
5. Dark Shadows — 8%

[Chris D]

I think anticipation will rise for TDKR as it gets closer to release and the marketing actually kicks in. Surprised to see The Bourne Legacy so high on the men's list. Because I didn't even know that was coming out this year. Still, interesting to see what is on people's radars right now.

Edited by Chris D, 17 April 2012 - 09:15 PM.

[Robert B]

Bourne is the #1 franchise that I always forget a ton of people love.

[Steve Sensible]

Yeah that's a surprise to me too. Never seen the attraction personally - I think they're really bland movies.

[Dave Wallace]

I like the three Bourne films when taken as a whole, but it's not a franchise that I'd go out of my way to see, especially when there are things like Avengers, Prometheus and DKR to watch this summer,

[Johnny Henning]

Dude, it's not like you're gonna be in a situation where you have to choose one or the other. You will be allowed to see all those movies.

I'm personally not all that into secret agent action movies, so for me it'll be more like I don't want to spend the time or money to see Bourne or Bond in the theater.

[Robert B]

I'm personally not all that into secret agent action movies, so for me it'll be more like I don't want to spend the time or money to see Bourne or Bond in the theater.

Yeah I'm with you. "International espionage" is a genre that I get bored with pretty easily, usually for fairly specific reasons (although I loved Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Mission Impossible 4, so that's not an absolute). But I see why people like it.

[Christian U]

It's also worth noting that the biggest movie of the year thus far also has a female protaganist with a bow and arrow. Not that Brave and The Hunger Games are in any way similar beyond that. Just thought it was something to throw into the mix for the hell of it.

That's an interesting thing to notice. Well spotted.


I think Brave will do extremely well.

Yeah that's a surprise to me too. Never seen the attraction personally - I think they're really bland movies.

Bourne 1 was a really-well made suspense film with a lot of well-staged action and an interesting premise. There was nothing interesting about the second one's story, really, but Greengrass' direction made it unique - I don't think we've seen fight scenes staged like that before, and his constant jump-cutting gave the film an astonishing pace. Watching that was like an extended cerebral attack. I think I remember I didn't care all that much about 3 because it was a bit of a rehash of that.

Edited by Christian U, 18 April 2012 - 06:23 AM.

[Steve Sensible]

Bourne 1 was a really-well made suspense film with a lot of well-staged action and an interesting premise. There was nothing interesting about the second one's story, really, but Greengrass' direction made it unique - I don't think we've seen fight scenes staged like that before, and his constant jump-cutting gave the film an astonishing pace. Watching that was like an extended cerebral attack. I think I remember I didn't care all that much about 3 because it was a bit of a rehash of that.

I thought the first Bourne was awful. I remember laughing at several supposedly dramatic moments. And the second one didn't hold my interest enough to even bother with the last one.

[Michael Stranger]

Oh, the last one's the best, IMO. Paddy Considine's in it!

[steveuk]

Oh, the last one's the best, IMO. Paddy Considine's in it!

The scene in the train station was excellent. Really gripping stuff.

[Sanjay]

After having seen The Avengers and Hunger Games, I predict that bows will be the uzi 9 millimeter for movies this summer - it's THE weapon of choice for 2012!



And a Bah! to all with no Bourne love.