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More Sin City gets given the green-light...

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£"(%ing finally.

also, Looper looks like a load of old pish, but good fun entertaining pish. It makes no sense, but at least as believable as many of my favourite films. It should be good enough.
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The concept of 'Looper' is silly. If Levitt can get rid of the bodies in some kind of industrial incinerator in the present then I'm sure they could do the same, or better, thirty years in the future.

You just have to go with it, its not about time travel, that's just a plot device.

The trailer didn't really grab me all that much, but I'm interested enough to watch the next one and then make a decision.

More Sin City gets given the green-light...

http://www.impactonl...ng-to-sin-about

I'll believe it when they start filming. finally.
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I really hope Levitt plays the character as Bruce Willis in his Moonlighting days. I may be disappointed. :(
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If Levitt can get rid of the bodies in some kind of industrial incinerator in the present then I'm sure they could do the same, or better, thirty years in the future.


With the police looking for the missing person
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With the police looking for the missing person


They'd still be looking for the missing person. If he killed the younger version of the missing person then they would never have existed, and the plot would make sense, but that's not what he's doing. He's just killing a future version of them in the past - they'll still exist up until the point they're zapped back in the future.
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They'd still be looking for the missing person.


With no chance at all of catching the killers in the act or finding any remains. It would be like the person just suddenly completely vanished.
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With no chance at all of catching the killers in the act or finding any remains. It would be like the person just suddenly completely vanished.


How is that any different to putting their body in an incinerator? You'd still have forensic evidence up to the point where they vanished.

As a plot on which to pin an entire movie, it's pretty flimsy. Here's hoping it just turns out to be a McGuffin.
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How is that any different to putting their body in an incinerator? You'd still have forensic evidence up to the point where they vanished.


Forensic evidence of what? There would be no evidence that the person was actually killed at all.

Killing someone, then incinerating them, then disposing of their remains would leave much more opportunities for you to get caught than just making them completely vanish.


I really don't see the problem with it. It is like having a teleporting machine that teleports someone to the other side of the planet to be killed and disposed of, only way better.
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Forensic evidence of what? There would be no evidence that the person was actually killed at all.

Killing someone, then incinerating them, then disposing of their remains would leave much more opportunities for you to get caught than just making them completely vanish.


I really don't see the problem with it. It is like having a teleporting machine that teleports someone to the other side of the planet to be killed and disposed of, only way better.


If it's that easy to zap somebody back, why can't the police zap back and do something about this entire organisation of loopers they've apparently got set up in the past? The more you think about it the more ridiculous it becomes.
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That seems like something that would be explained in a movie rather than a teaser trailer. But plot descriptions say that the technology is completely banned.
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That seems like something that would be explained in a movie rather than a teaser trailer. But plot descriptions say that the technology is completely banned.


Does it also explain why they don't just send them back millions of years, so they don't even need an organisation of assassins in the past?
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Does it also explain why they don't just send them back millions of years, so they don't even need an organisation of assassins in the past?


Yeah that is probably something that will be explained in the movie rather than the 1m 45 second teaser.
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It is a bit overcomplicated, as Steve points out. Organized crime is already pretty good at making people disappear without time machines. Why the added effort and expense of a looper organization?

On top of that, there are a lot more profitable uses for Time Machines, don't you think?

Really, it's just a device to put the protagonist face to face with the man he's going to become.
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Why dont they send people they want to disappear even further back into the past so they get eaten by dinosaurs? Or even further, back to the time the Earth was a molten ball of liquid rock?
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Really, it's just a device to put the protagonist face to face with the man he's going to become.


And I'm fine with that. It's a bit of a silly premise on the face of it, but that doesn't mean it won't work in the movie. And anyway, it's just the premise: I'll buy that going in and see what the story does with it.
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Why dont they send people they want to disappear even further back into the past so they get eaten by dinosaurs? Or even further, back to the time the Earth was a molten ball of liquid rock?


Then you're in a The Sound Of Thunder situation. I mean, introducing organic matter from today into the world billions of years ago. It would be like jumpstarting evolution early.

Of course, I imagine that part of the plot will be Bruce Willis rushing to kill the person in the past who, in the future, sent him back to be killed. And Levitt trying to figure out who he's really supposed to kill in this situation.

As Douglas Adams once wrote - the real problem with time travel isn't going back to marry your grandmother and becoming your grandfather. Any reasonably stable family can get used to something like that. The real problem is verb tense. What is the proper tense of a verb to describe going back in time to kill the person who sent you back in time to be killed?
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Did anyone really think we'd ever see Mel Gibson's MACCABEES movie?

Warner Bros. Shelves Mel Gibson Maccabee Movie (Exclusive)



...But in an explosive letter to Gibson obtained by TheWrap, Eszterhas said that the director never planned to make the movie, and was using him to deflect Gibson's anti-Semitic reputation.

He wrote: “I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason you won’t make ‘The Maccabees’ is the ugliest possible one. You hate Jews.”


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This has been floating around for a few days. Gibson responded:

Joe,

I have your letter. I am not going to respond to it line by line, but I will say that the great majority of the facts as well as the statements and actions attributed to me in your letter are utter fabrications. I would have thought that a man of principle, as you purport to be, would have withdrawn from the project regardless of the money if you truly believed me to be the person you describe in your letter. I guess you only had a problem with me after Warner Brothers rejected your script.

I will acknowledge like most creative people I am passionate and intense. I was very frustrated that when you arrived at my home at the expense of both Warner Brothers and myself you hadn’t written a single word of a script or even an outline after 15 months of research, meetings, discussions and the outpouring of my heartfelt vision for this story. I did react more strongly than I should have. I promptly sent you a written apology, the colorful words of which you apparently now find offensive. Let me now clearly apologize to you and your family in the simplest of terms.

Contrary to your assertion that I was only developing Maccabees to burnish my tarnished reputation, I have been working on this project for over 10 years and it was publicly announced 8 years ago. I absolutely want to make this movie; it’s just that neither Warner Brothers nor I want to make this movie based on your script.

Honestly, Joe, not only was the script delivered later than you promised, both Warner Brothers and I were extraordinarily disappointed with the draft. In 25 years of script development I have never seen a more substandard first draft or a more significant waste of time. The decision not to proceed with you was based on the quality of your script, not on any other factor.

I think that we can agree that this should be our last communication.


Mel


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