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[David Meadows]

Working from home on Health & Safety grounds

Our plumbing is being repaired, and after queueing for the single working toilet yesterday, I've said I'm not going back in until it's fixed!

[Jim Ohara]

Still no baby, that puts us on due date +7...

They normally don't let these things go on so long. If you were in the states she'd have had a c-section 5 days ago. I found this list for you, might help:


40 Ways to induce Labor Naturally

1. Acupressure - There are pressure points in the shoulder well, webbing between thumb and forefinger, heel and small of back.

2. Balsamic Vinegar - Add a dash to your salad. Definitely won't hurt to try!

3. Basil - Throw some in your cooking.

4. Black/Blue Cohosh - Taken in tea form is a common way to induce labor. Some midwives use it even during labor to increase slow contractions. There have been some studies claiming that it can have bad side effects for mother and/or baby however. I'd recommend research first.

5. Borage seed oil - Meant to have similar effects to evening primrose oil - dilating and effacing.

6. Bouncing on birth/exercise ball - Spreading your legs as well as the moving up and down can help the baby move down.

7. Bumpy car ride - Sometimes the baby just needs a bit of a jiggle!

8. Castor oil - Statistically speaking it only works on 57% of women and causes lovely things like diarrhoea and sometimes, vomiting. The theory is that the cramps in the bowel set off contractions. Opinion is still out on whether castor oil causes babies to pass meconium in the womb but a) most women using castor oil are overdue and b) babies that are overdue are more likely to pass meconium so you do the maths!

9. Chinese food - Not sure why, but some people have claimed this works a treat. Or maybe they just ate Chinese food all the time anyway, so they blamed it for the onset of labor. Worth a try!

10. Clary sage oil - Use for aromatherapy as an oil or in a candle.


11. Dancing - Don't do anything too drastic - pole dancing might be a bit much! But if you get in there and swing your hips around a lot, there's a chance baby might think about coming out.

12. Eggplant - Many people swear by eggplant parmigiana.

13. Evening primrose oil - Can be taken orally from 35 weeks and used internally (good idea to do this at night and use a panty liner) from 38 weeks. It's meant to soften the cervix so that even if you do get induced, the doctor may be able to break your waters and not need any further intervention to bring on labor.

14. Galloping - Many women claim that imitating a horse can help start labor. See the video further down!

15. Glass of Wine - The slight effects of the alcohol are said to bring on labor, however remember that drinking during pregnancy is NOT recommended. You might want to check this with your doctor first.

16. Golden seal - Taken in tablet form is easiest.

17. Kneeling on all fours - A friend of a friend was told to do this. Swing the hips back and forth. Her waters broke just a few minutes later. Coincidence? Maybe!

18. Licorice - Try to get the natural kind - it contains more licorice and usually less sugar. Like castor oil, some people claim that the slightly laxative effect can cause cramps in the bowel which lead to contractions.

19. Mandarin oil on heels - Had a friend recommend this. It didn't work for her, but worth a try!

20. Massage - Find a massage therapist qualified to work with pregnant women. Many will know various points to massage to induce labor. This is why massage is not recommended during the early stages of pregnancy.


21. Motherwort - Taken in tea or pill form.

22. Nipple stimulation - Needs to be done for approx an hour at a time. The verdict is out on this - some people claim that it causes very strong contractions which can be dangerous. I tried it and I had barely more than cramps! For increased stimulation try either a breast pump or borrowing a friend's newborn baby (although you might want to be close friends!).

23. Oregano - Throw some in your cooking!

24. Orgasm - Orgasms cause contractions which is part of what feels so good. That's why many women enjoy orgasms more during pregnancy! You can try this alone or with a partner... whatever you're comfortable with.

25. Pineapple - Best taken fresh and raw. Statistically speaking, the chemicals which pineapple contain, which are said to start labor aren't very high. So that means about 7 pineapples should put you into labor!

26. Quinine - Not quite sure how it works but I've read that it is used in various countries - either pill or liquid form.

27. Raspberry leaf - Taken either as a tea or pill. Start at about 34 weeks - opinion is divided as to whether it will start labor, but it definitely strengthens the uterus, leading to a (hopefully) shorter labor, because each contraction can achieve more.

28. Relaxation excercises - Try some relaxing music and just lie back or even join a meditation class.

29. Sperm - If you feel up to sex, this is a good start towards getting ready for labor. The sperm helps soften and dilate the cervix.

30.Spicy food - A very well known labor starter! The reason it works may be because of the upset it causes to the digestive system which then upsets the uterus. Not highly recommended.



31. Squats - Doing a few of these each day often helps to move the baby down and into position.

32. Squaw Vine - Old remedy. Not sure how well it works.

33. Stretch and sweep of membranes - Your midwife or doctor can perform this simple procedure. A finger is inserted into the cervix and a gentle 'sweep' of the finger slightly separates the uterus wall and amniotic sac, sometimes leading to labor within hours or days. Some women say it's an easy, painless procedure, others claim it can be very painful. How well it works can also depend on if you are very far dilated or not.

34. Swimming - Relaxed swimming can help bring out the baby - both the water and the movement help.

35. Swinging on a swing - Similar to a bumpy car ride but probably a bit easier on mum.

36. Thyme Tea - Worth a try!

37. Visualisation excercises - Many women swear by these. Try making a recording of yourself talking about the baby moving down, preparing to be born etc or just imagine it in your head.

38. Walking - The bumping up and down can help the baby move into the birth canal. In fact, this is one of the few ways that most doctors agree on for starting labor.

39. Walking up/down stairs - More bumping up and down! The further lifting of the legs can help with moving the baby if walking doesn't seem to.

40. Yoga - Many places offer special classes for all stages of pregnancy.

[garjones]

Stupid list, there's no curry on there. Now if it's chinese food and curry then half the world's population is having premature kids.

The normal practice is somewhere between a week or two after the due date they'll induce. The date is still an estmate anyway, even the ultrasound calculation on my daughter varied from the 16th to the 21st on different visits so 2 days seems somewhat panicky when it's well within the normal margin of error (she came early though on the 3rd, maybe the Chinese food thing is true).

[Chris Fenton]

So far we have tried,

2, 6, 7, 17, 22, 24, 25, 27, 29, 30 and 38.

We went and bought Clary Sage Oil today and we are going to give that a try with some massage. Black/Blue Cohosh is something the wife is very wary of, possibility of it causing complications. Castor Oil is another thing that she really doesn't want to try just because of the other effects.

Swimming is not an option, only because the wife is a swimming teacher and going swimming is too much like going back to work.

The midwife is coming tomorrow to do a stretch and sweep.

Helen tried acupressure and said it gave her funny pains so she got scared and stopped because she was home alone.

[Arjan Dirkse]

They normally don't let these things go on so long. If you were in the states she'd have had a c-section 5 days ago. I found this list for you, might help:


40 Ways to induce Labor Naturally

1. Acupressure - There are pressure points in the shoulder well, webbing between thumb and forefinger, heel and small of back.

2. Balsamic Vinegar - Add a dash to your salad. Definitely won't hurt to try!

3. Basil - Throw some in your cooking.

4. Black/Blue Cohosh - Taken in tea form is a common way to induce labor. Some midwives use it even during labor to increase slow contractions. There have been some studies claiming that it can have bad side effects for mother and/or baby however. I'd recommend research first.

5. Borage seed oil - Meant to have similar effects to evening primrose oil - dilating and effacing.

6. Bouncing on birth/exercise ball - Spreading your legs as well as the moving up and down can help the baby move down.

7. Bumpy car ride - Sometimes the baby just needs a bit of a jiggle!

8. Castor oil - Statistically speaking it only works on 57% of women and causes lovely things like diarrhoea and sometimes, vomiting. The theory is that the cramps in the bowel set off contractions. Opinion is still out on whether castor oil causes babies to pass meconium in the womb but a) most women using castor oil are overdue and b) babies that are overdue are more likely to pass meconium so you do the maths!

9. Chinese food - Not sure why, but some people have claimed this works a treat. Or maybe they just ate Chinese food all the time anyway, so they blamed it for the onset of labor. Worth a try!

10. Clary sage oil - Use for aromatherapy as an oil or in a candle.


11. Dancing - Don't do anything too drastic - pole dancing might be a bit much! But if you get in there and swing your hips around a lot, there's a chance baby might think about coming out.

12. Eggplant - Many people swear by eggplant parmigiana.

13. Evening primrose oil - Can be taken orally from 35 weeks and used internally (good idea to do this at night and use a panty liner) from 38 weeks. It's meant to soften the cervix so that even if you do get induced, the doctor may be able to break your waters and not need any further intervention to bring on labor.

14. Galloping - Many women claim that imitating a horse can help start labor. See the video further down!

15. Glass of Wine - The slight effects of the alcohol are said to bring on labor, however remember that drinking during pregnancy is NOT recommended. You might want to check this with your doctor first.

16. Golden seal - Taken in tablet form is easiest.

17. Kneeling on all fours - A friend of a friend was told to do this. Swing the hips back and forth. Her waters broke just a few minutes later. Coincidence? Maybe!

18. Licorice - Try to get the natural kind - it contains more licorice and usually less sugar. Like castor oil, some people claim that the slightly laxative effect can cause cramps in the bowel which lead to contractions.

19. Mandarin oil on heels - Had a friend recommend this. It didn't work for her, but worth a try!

20. Massage - Find a massage therapist qualified to work with pregnant women. Many will know various points to massage to induce labor. This is why massage is not recommended during the early stages of pregnancy.


21. Motherwort - Taken in tea or pill form.

22. Nipple stimulation - Needs to be done for approx an hour at a time. The verdict is out on this - some people claim that it causes very strong contractions which can be dangerous. I tried it and I had barely more than cramps! For increased stimulation try either a breast pump or borrowing a friend's newborn baby (although you might want to be close friends!).

23. Oregano - Throw some in your cooking!

24. Orgasm - Orgasms cause contractions which is part of what feels so good. That's why many women enjoy orgasms more during pregnancy! You can try this alone or with a partner... whatever you're comfortable with.

25. Pineapple - Best taken fresh and raw. Statistically speaking, the chemicals which pineapple contain, which are said to start labor aren't very high. So that means about 7 pineapples should put you into labor!

26. Quinine - Not quite sure how it works but I've read that it is used in various countries - either pill or liquid form.

27. Raspberry leaf - Taken either as a tea or pill. Start at about 34 weeks - opinion is divided as to whether it will start labor, but it definitely strengthens the uterus, leading to a (hopefully) shorter labor, because each contraction can achieve more.

28. Relaxation excercises - Try some relaxing music and just lie back or even join a meditation class.

29. Sperm - If you feel up to sex, this is a good start towards getting ready for labor. The sperm helps soften and dilate the cervix.

30.Spicy food - A very well known labor starter! The reason it works may be because of the upset it causes to the digestive system which then upsets the uterus. Not highly recommended.



31. Squats - Doing a few of these each day often helps to move the baby down and into position.

32. Squaw Vine - Old remedy. Not sure how well it works.

33. Stretch and sweep of membranes - Your midwife or doctor can perform this simple procedure. A finger is inserted into the cervix and a gentle 'sweep' of the finger slightly separates the uterus wall and amniotic sac, sometimes leading to labor within hours or days. Some women say it's an easy, painless procedure, others claim it can be very painful. How well it works can also depend on if you are very far dilated or not.

34. Swimming - Relaxed swimming can help bring out the baby - both the water and the movement help.

35. Swinging on a swing - Similar to a bumpy car ride but probably a bit easier on mum.

36. Thyme Tea - Worth a try!

37. Visualisation excercises - Many women swear by these. Try making a recording of yourself talking about the baby moving down, preparing to be born etc or just imagine it in your head.

38. Walking - The bumping up and down can help the baby move into the birth canal. In fact, this is one of the few ways that most doctors agree on for starting labor.

39. Walking up/down stairs - More bumping up and down! The further lifting of the legs can help with moving the baby if walking doesn't seem to.

40. Yoga - Many places offer special classes for all stages of pregnancy.

Might try some of those. Do you have to be pregnant in order for them to work?

[Mike]

They normally don't let these things go on so long.

Yes they do.

Due date + 10 is where many obstetricians'll start to think about inducing a first time mother, in this country anyway. Due dates are just an arbitrary date in a range; 'term' goes from 37 weeks to 42 (though it's rare to get to 42 full weeks these days)

The C-section rate of the US is not something to aspire to.

Good luck Chris and Mrs Chris.

[garjones]

The C-section rate of the US is not something to aspire to.

Neither is their infant mortality rate, they can charge a lot more for a c-section of course.

[stephanie familiar]

not feeling very well. watching inspector gadget on tv and drinking my third cup of tea. dr.claw is pretty hawt.

[brucegray666]

dr.claw is pretty hawt.

I'm not seeing it myself...

[stephanie familiar]

I'm not seeing it myself...

okay, dr. claw's VOICE is pretty hawt.

[Arjan Dirkse]

His claw is also impressive.

[Arjan Dirkse]

I'm looking for accomodation in the Česká Republika for my vacation now...Google Earth is a great tool! Just find some location where you want to travel and look for the bed icon, which leads to a website for a hotel or some cheap guesthouse. Lots of fun.

This Internet age does have its benefits.

[Chris Fenton]

okay, dr. claw's VOICE is pretty hawt.

I'll get you next time gadget, NEXT TIME!

[Steve Sensible]

That's "hawt"?

[Mike]

Loud boom heard over the Midlands, which the MoD are saying was due to a Typhoon rapidly scrambled for a false alarm security alert.

Someone else is ascribing it to a 'minor earth tremor'.

ALIENS JUST CRASHED TO EARTH NEAR BIRMINGHAM PEOPLE! IT'S THE ONLY SANE EXPLANATION!

[garjones]

Typhoons in Birmingham? The Mayans were right.

[Mike]

There were tornadoes forecast for the UK today. Dunno if they actually materialised or not.

[Steve Sensible]

S'alright, the aliens will leave again when their universal translators don't work on Brummie accents.

[Chris Fenton]

Loud boom heard over the Midlands, which the MoD are saying was due to a Typhoon rapidly scrambled for a false alarm security alert.

Someone else is ascribing it to a 'minor earth tremor'.

ALIENS JUST CRASHED TO EARTH NEAR BIRMINGHAM PEOPLE! IT'S THE ONLY SANE EXPLANATION!

A friend of mine was talking about this on Facebook earlier, she saw the get and heard the boom but she thought it had crashed.

Every other comment said Sonic Boom however... It was also my first thought...

S'alright, the aliens will leave again when their universal translators don't work on Brummie accents.

Unfortunately it was over Peterborough...

[garjones]

This is the plot to Skizz isn't it? Alan Moore truly is a visionary.