139 replies to this topic

[Russell H]

[David Meadows]

also, the vegan community are the cruellest, meanest, self-righteous people i have ever encountered. someone actually called me a whore and a terrible person because i don't think eating honey is bad.

Vegans don't eat honey? That's the first time I've heard that. I mean, I know it's technically bee vomit, but it's not actually any living part of the bee.

[Steve Sensible]

Those bees are kept in captivity, you monster!

[David Meadows]

Whenever I see them they are flying around quite freely.

[Steve Sensible]

Those are obviously free-range bees. I'm talking about battery bees.

[David Meadows]

Oh, absolutely agree, battery bees shouldn't be used.

You can't get much electricity out of them, and they're a bugger to hook up to the dynamo.

[The Lorcan Nagle]

There's a joke about the Matrix in there somewhere...

[Arjan Dirkse]

I think that over the coming decades, we'll see a move into more artificial meat; the stuff that is grown from cell clumps, rather than cut from a deal animal. It's a weird idea at first, but it makes sense economically and people will get used to it eventually. Another possibility is that as the world's population grows and the economic crisis and environmental problems grow accordingly, we'll get used to eating insects like crickets and mealworms, since that is far more economical.

Ina few hundred years time, i think people will look at the practice of factory farming in the same way we look at slavery now.

[Todd Gross]

also, the vegan community are the cruellest, meanest, self-righteous people i have ever encountered. someone actually called me a whore and a terrible person because i don't think eating honey is bad.

Serious question: Do vegans breastfeed their children?

[Ulf Imwiehe]

also, the vegan community are the cruellest, meanest, self-righteous people i have ever encountered. someone actually called me a whore and a terrible person because i don't think eating honey is bad.

Ahem. As MW’s token vegan I must say… I agree. Some of my fellow vegans have a tendency to proselytize in a rather aggressive manner. While I do respect their zeal I think their methods are questionable and counterproductive. I mean I’ve been vegan for years now and I still have my old leather jacket from way back when. And I still wear it come wintertime. According to several fellow vegans I’m a devil and a hypocrite for not giving the jacket a proper burial. I shit you not.

[Arjan Dirkse]

Ahem. As MW’s token vegan I must say… I agree. Some of my fellow vegans have a tendency to proselytize in a rather aggressive manner. While I do respect their zeal I think their methods are questionable and counterproductive. I mean I’ve been vegan for years now and I still have my old leather jacket from way back when. And I still wear it come wintertime. According to several fellow vegans I’m a devil and a hypocrite for not giving the jacket a proper burial. I shit you not.

That's horrible

Could it be that the loudmouth vegans are more vocal, therefore attracting more attention, than the quiet ones, even though there are probably far more quit ones than loudmouth ones?

[Ulf Imwiehe]

That's horrible

Could it be that the loudmouth vegans are more vocal, therefore attracting more attention, than the quiet ones, even though there are probably far more quit ones than loudmouth ones?

I’ve been wondering myself, Arjan. To go vegan is a pretty profound life decision, no matter whether the impetus behind it is of an ethical, a strictly dietary or even a spiritual nature. Some people who change their way of life and their worldview can be pretty damn aggressive in foisting their newfound ethics on others.

[craggy]

I think I'd have to see your jacket before calling for its burial.

[Ulf Imwiehe]

Shouldn’t we baptize it before lowering its sorry carcass into the grave?

[Henry Blanco]

Shouldn’t we baptize it before lowering its sorry carcass into the grave?

You can't baptise a jacket because it has no soul.

[Ulf Imwiehe]

All things considered my jacket is more soulful than some of the people I meet on the bus.

[Arjan Dirkse]

I’ve been wondering myself, Arjan. To go vegan is a pretty profound life decision, no matter whether the impetus behind it is of an ethical, a strictly dietary or even a spiritual nature. Some people who change their way of life and their worldview can be pretty damn aggressive in foisting their newfound ethics on others.

Could be...well, I don't know. I never did the count.

I'd probably go vegan if I didn't like steak and salami and salmon and cheese as much as I did. On one level the thought that animals might suffer terrible ordeals because of me bothers me...on the other hand, I don't think it's evil or even cruel to use animal life for food, as long as they've had a good (or at least satisfactory) life.

[garjones]

I ate some fois gras the other day, it was lovely. I'm off to hell I suppose.

I don't eat that many pork products as most restaurants here won't sell them as they'll lose 40% of their potential customers. It's a bit easier in Penang with a large Chinese population but still not mainstream.

I had fun when Kiel was over here and he arrived very early and spent half his day in a 24 hour McDonald's. He said it can't be a halal restaurant as he had the sausage and egg McMuffin. It's chicken, it does taste exactly the same as the pork one but that's because all McDonald's food is frozen and dehydrated and all the taste comes from flavourings, there's a quote in Fast Food Nation where one of the flavouring experts says he could make you a strawberry tasting burger if you wanted it.

[Arjan Dirkse]

Oh yes, I've had foie gras in Hungary...it's delectable. There's some controversy wether it's really so bad for the birds as some people say though, so maybe you can avoid the hellfire.

Weirdest meat I ever ate was raw horsemeat in Japan. It was quite nice, but not as good as some of the other stuff I ate there. Japanese food rocks.

[Ulf Imwiehe]

I grew up as a forester’s son. My father used to bring home young animals whose mothers had met their demise under the wheels of motorists in a hurry and with little woodlands driving experience. We bottle-fed and raised deer, foxes, rabbits and one boar by the name Barney. All animals we raised were successfully released into the wild with the exception of Barney. He kept roaming our land and even attacked neighbors (and parked cars!) so my father had to put him down in the end. It was a sad day and still, damn, Barney tasted great. I helped to kill, field dress and prepare game of any kind, but eating my pal Barney was the tipping point for me…