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Loved Hugo Weaving in it - especially the fact he went with a comic book Nazi accent rather than a proper German one.


Apparently Weaving based his accent on Werner Herzog.


I started watching Corman's World, but didn't manage to finish it last night. Despite some great interviewees - everyone from Robert De Niro and Jack Nicholson to Scorcese and Peter Bogdanovich - it's kind of dull. It doesn't help that Corman himself isn't a particularly engaging presence. He's famously polite and reserved, which as noted by some of those interviewed is very much at odds with much of his work, and it's hard to see anything beyond that fixed smile. He's like Stan Lee on sedatives.

EDIT: Just finished watching it. The second half was more interesting actually, seeing how Hollywood essentially co-opted the kind of movies Corman was making, but pricing them out of his league. Also, seeing Jack Nicholson getting all choked up was very touching.
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Started Anvil: The Story of Anvil but didn't get to finish it last night. So far it's pretty depressing.


in my humble opinion it's worth watching until the end. it was a great documentary, and yes it's depressing in that it's about a fall from grace, but i actually found it rather inspiring, and certainly interesting.
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Apparently Weaving based his accent on Werner Herzog.


Yes he said that in an interview. I went on Youtube and played back some Herzog and then Weaving as the Red Skull and it's a pretty good impersonation. The Red Skull is a bit louder and more aggressive though.
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Apparently Weaving based his accent on Werner Herzog.


many a documentary has been ruined by his narration. can't stand his voice.
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Yes he said that in an interview. I went on Youtube and played back some Herzog...


I just went to find an interview with him on Youtube and the first one I came across was this one. He's being interviewed in LA by Mark Kermode and a sniper tries to shoot him! Posted Image

It was probably Michael Bay going after Kermode...




I still think Weaving sounds more like Arnie.
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that video is simulating what it's like to be old and going blind and deaf, right?
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'Hunger Games'

I liked it more than I expected. It's very much a throwback and/or homage to 70's scifi. Certainly the design draws from those stories;

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The second half of the movie, the games themselves, are a bit less interesting, but they still held my attention.
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'Hunger Games'

I liked it more than I expected. It's very much a throwback and/or homage to 70's scifi. Certainly the design draws from those stories;

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The second half of the movie, the games themselves, are a bit less interesting, but they still held my attention.


I would have enjoyed it more if they'd used a steady-cam. That said, it was pretty good and I think anyone dismissing it as a Twilight-esque teen movie (as some of my friends did) is missing out.
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In my head it is Knights of God meets The Tripods.


How wrong an assumption is this? (I know there are no aliens)
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In my head it is Knights of God meets The Tripods.


How wrong an assumption is this? (I know there are no aliens)

I have vague memories of both, but if you add in some 'Robin of Sherwood' you're pretty close.


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In my head it is Knights of God meets The Tripods.


How wrong an assumption is this? (I know there are no aliens)


Going solely from having read the Tripods novels and not knowing what the other thing is... um, possibly.

It's like Battle Royale but with a dystopic sci-fi setting and more emotion and context.
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Knights of God was awesome Sunday afternoon telly: Fascist religious order has taken control of future Britain (in the 2020s I think, series aired in the mid 80s). The series centred on a Welsh lad (called Gervase I think), who turned out to be the spirited away infant son of the Royal Family (the rest of them having been brutally killed when the regime rose to power) and had undertones of Arthurian legend (delivered by Patrick Troughton).

(It also had the delightfully subversive concept, for the 1980s, of Ireland as an American State acting as a funnel for weapons to the Resistance/terrorist fighters fighting to reclaim the previous order)
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2020s? It's funny how some fiction shows a future that becomes harder and harder to imagine, the closer we get to it, and some becomes scarily possible.
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in my humble opinion it's worth watching until the end. it was a great documentary, and yes it's depressing in that it's about a fall from grace, but i actually found it rather inspiring, and certainly interesting.


I did finish it and while I thought the ending was pretty sweet it was still a depressing film over all. Especially when you know that even with this film to promote them they've basically come to nothing (They got a single major tour and have now dropped back into obscurity).

Watched the first part of the Red Riding Trilogy (Year of Our Lord 1974). The accents were so thick and the mix so bad that I actually had to turn on the subtitled to understand some characters. Overall, it didn't impress me. It was muddled and the main character was little more than a sketch of a person leaving his actions with no real backing. I just didn't buy into a lot of things because I was invested in him nor was he defined well enough for them to make sense. I will check out the others since they're by completely different writers and directors though.
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Going solely from having read the Tripods novels and not knowing what the other thing is... um, possibly.

It's like Battle Royale but with a dystopic sci-fi setting and more emotion and context.

I was pleased that, while it had emotion, it was overly emotional. There's plenty of places where you can imagine the score surging up with violins and mournful trumpets etc., but it doesn't actually do that.

In all but a couple of instances the movie avoids the Hollywood approach to its subject.
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I did finish it and while I thought the ending was pretty sweet it was still a depressing film over all. Especially when you know that even with this film to promote them they've basically come to nothing (They got a single major tour and have now dropped back into obscurity).


I wouldn't say that is true. They haven't become megastars or anything but they have been performing regularly and to much bigger crowds than they had been before. They seem to have done well out of it.
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Watching an episode of Grimm. Don't know why. Maybe it's really a cry for help?
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Watching an episode of Grimm. Don't know why. Maybe it's really a cry for help?


Grimm's turning into a decent show now the relationships have moved beyond the basic MOTW format.
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Knights of God was awesome Sunday afternoon telly: Fascist religious order has taken control of future Britain (in the 2020s I think, series aired in the mid 80s). The series centred on a Welsh lad (called Gervase I think), who turned out to be the spirited away infant son of the Royal Family (the rest of them having been brutally killed when the regime rose to power) and had undertones of Arthurian legend (delivered by Patrick Troughton).

(It also had the delightfully subversive concept, for the 1980s, of Ireland as an American State acting as a funnel for weapons to the Resistance/terrorist fighters fighting to reclaim the previous order)


That sounds awesome.

I mentioned before that John Christopher was my God growing up. The Guardians was a great novel (a world divided into a dystopian urban setting for your average people and a rural England paradise for the powerful), I loved Empty World (sort of like The Stand, only that everybody simply dies of the disease), the Sword of the Spirits trilogy was great (post-apopcalyptic medieval society digs up modern-day machinery and weapons - it's a bit medieval fantasy meets sci-fi), The Lotus Caves was deeply weird and stuck with me for a long timed, and I must've read the Tripods trilogy ten times or so.



What the Hunger Games reminds of most, though, from what I hear about it, are Richard Bachman's (Stephen King's) dystopian novels for young readers: The Running Man and The Long Walk:


One hundred teenage boys participate in an annual walking contest called "The Long Walk," which is the "national sport". Each Walker must maintain a speed of at least four miles per hour; if he drops below that speed for 30 seconds, he receives a verbal warning (which can be erased by walking for one hour without being warned). If a Walker with three warnings slows down again, he is "ticketed." The meaning of this term is intentionally kept vague at first, but it soon becomes clear that "buying a ticket" means to be shot dead by soldiers riding in half-tracks along the roadside. Walkers may be shot immediately for certain serious violations, such as trying to leave the road or attacking the half-track. The soldiers use electronic equipment to precisely determine a Walker's speed.

The event is run by a character known as "The Major," who is implied to have much power, stemming from a possible military or fascist state system. The Major appears at the beginning of the Walk to encourage the boys and start them on their way, and then occasionally thereafter. While the Walkers initially greet him with awe and respect, they eventually realize their admiration is misplaced and ridicule him in later appearances.

The Walk begins at the Maine/Canada border and travels the east coast of the United States until the winner is determined. There are no stops, rest periods, or established finish line, and the Walk does not pause for any reason (including bad weather or darkness); it ends only when one Walker is left alive. According to the rules, the Walkers can obtain aid only from the soldiers. They may request a canteen of water at any time, and food concentrates (apparently similar to the ones developed by NASA's space program) are distributed at 9:00 every morning. Walkers may bring anything they can carry, including food or additional footwear, but cannot receive aid from bystanders. They are allowed to have bodily contact with onlookers as long as they stay on the road. While they cannot physically interfere with one another to detrimental effect, they can help each other, provided they stay above four miles per hour.

The winner receives "The Prize": anything he wants for the rest of his life.

It is implied that many past winners have died soon after the Walk, due to its hazardous mental and physical challenges. The Long Walk is not only a physical trial, but a psychological one, as the Walkers are continually pressed against the idea of death and their mortality. Contestants have actually tried to crawl at 4 mph to survive after their legs gave out. The story has several characters who suffer mental breakdown, one of whom kills himself by tearing out his throat, and most characters experience some mental degeneration from the stress and lack of sleep.



That novel really impressed me back then.
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